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Tuesday, May 20, 2008
Who's Society?
"Just in case any of you doubted my comment about what direction OUR SOCIETY is headed..." Mark what do you think the author meant by "our society"? Does that include China and other countries historically that did not have many Christians?
help me for a second and point me to what text you are quoting from. I'm not sure I understand the text. Normally, when people use "our society" they are pointing to their own culture or society, not that of others. I would guess until I read the text that "our society" would mean America. That is the implication I usually get, but that is a pretty general term to understand outside of it's context.
Never mind Heene, I just found the text and I think I see where you are going...
I in no way disagree that our society (America) is quickly being lost to paganism. I'm not refuting your evidence. I'm refuting what you link it to. I do not believe that the end of the world is coming just because America is going into moral decay. I don't think you can base the truth of scripture off of what you see on the news. I think we have to look at scripture and interpret scripture with scripture in order to find the truth.
America and the rest of the world will at times look as if everything is falling apart, and if we only focus on America it could seem as if hope is lost at times. But as Christians, we should not only look into the whole world to see what God is doing redemptively but look to scripture alone to find the evidence for our beliefs.
All I am asking is for you to use scripture for your evidence that the world is coming to an end, not headlines. Headlines change from country to country. At one time, almost every believer in America was postmil or optimistic amil because America seemed so blessed by God and was going in the right direction spiritually and economically, but as soon as the tide changes, we jump ship and start screaming "end of the world!" and latch onto a premil view. I'm saying both are wrong. We should never interpret our eschatology through society, we should interpret it through scripture.
one more thing. A postmillenialist doesn't believe that things are getting better in a straight line. There are times when it goes up and times when it goes down, but is would look more like a Wal-Mart stock graph between 1980's and 2000. The progression went up, but there were definitely times when it went down. But over all the stock shot through the roof. I also don't believe that we are anywhere close to the end of time. I believe that we are still the "early church." It wouldn't suprise me if there were hundreds of thousands of years left on earth.
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help me for a second and point me to what text you are quoting from. I'm not sure I understand the text. Normally, when people use "our society" they are pointing to their own culture or society, not that of others. I would guess until I read the text that "our society" would mean America. That is the implication I usually get, but that is a pretty general term to understand outside of it's context.
Help me understand where you are going with this too.
Never mind Heene, I just found the text and I think I see where you are going...
I in no way disagree that our society (America) is quickly being lost to paganism. I'm not refuting your evidence. I'm refuting what you link it to. I do not believe that the end of the world is coming just because America is going into moral decay. I don't think you can base the truth of scripture off of what you see on the news. I think we have to look at scripture and interpret scripture with scripture in order to find the truth.
America and the rest of the world will at times look as if everything is falling apart, and if we only focus on America it could seem as if hope is lost at times. But as Christians, we should not only look into the whole world to see what God is doing redemptively but look to scripture alone to find the evidence for our beliefs.
All I am asking is for you to use scripture for your evidence that the world is coming to an end, not headlines. Headlines change from country to country. At one time, almost every believer in America was postmil or optimistic amil because America seemed so blessed by God and was going in the right direction spiritually and economically, but as soon as the tide changes, we jump ship and start screaming "end of the world!" and latch onto a premil view. I'm saying both are wrong. We should never interpret our eschatology through society, we should interpret it through scripture.
one more thing. A postmillenialist doesn't believe that things are getting better in a straight line. There are times when it goes up and times when it goes down, but is would look more like a Wal-Mart stock graph between 1980's and 2000. The progression went up, but there were definitely times when it went down. But over all the stock shot through the roof. I also don't believe that we are anywhere close to the end of time. I believe that we are still the "early church." It wouldn't suprise me if there were hundreds of thousands of years left on earth.
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